S Halido Đonlagić Đapić o epistemologiji miru v Bosni in Hercegovini. #MetaPHoDcast V tokratni epizodi gostimo Halido Đonlagić Đapić, doktorico znanosti s področja religiologije, ki je doktorirala na Fakulteti za družbene vede v Ljubljani. V pogovoru razkrije, kako jo je izkušnja vojne v otroštvu v Bosni in Hercegovini oblikovala kot osebo in akademsko raziskovalko. S svojo osebno zgodbo oriše pomen miru, ki presega zgolj odsotnost vojne. V doktorski nalogi raziskuje religiozne in sekularne epistemologije ter fenomenologije miru v Bosni in Hercegovini. Halida pojasni, da je mir kontekstualno pogojen in da pogosto ostanemo pri t. i. negativnem miru – brez vojne, a z nadaljnjimi konflikti. Opozarja tudi na problematičen pristop mednarodnih organizacij, ki pogosto ignorirajo lokalna znanja in potrebe. Zelo navdihujoč primer iz Mostarja pokaže, kako so mladi s pomočjo skupne glasbene šole presegli etnične delitve in ustvarili prostor sodelovanja in prijateljstva. Tudi sama je zelo dejavna v lokalnih in akademskih skupnostih, kjer poskuša s t.i. “grassroots” oziroma lokalnimi pristopi prispevati k miru. Vedno bolj opažam, da so ljudje tisti, ki so pomembni. Inštitucije smo ljudje. Halida pojasni pojme, kot so religiozne in posvetne epistemologije miru, razloži metode svoje terenske raziskave ter razmišlja o prenosljivosti svojih ugotovitev na druge konflikte po svetu. Dotakneva se tudi vprašanja spola, položaja žensk v Bosni in Hercegovini danes. Na večerjo bi povabila več ljudi, ki jih je spoznala v Sloveniji tekom doktorata, saj je bil ta čas zanjo zelo pomenljiv. Priporoča filma Kiss the future in Gospodar svoje bodućnosti in knjigi Shining Humanity Zilke Spahić Šiljak in Good people in evil time (Dobri ljudi u vremenu zla) Svetlane Broz, vnukinje Josipa Broza Tita. In this episode, we talk with Halida Đonlagić Đapić, a PhD in Religiology who completed her doctorate at the Faculty of Social Sciences in Ljubljana. In the conversation, she shares how her experience of war as a child in Bosnia and Herzegovina shaped her both personally and academically. Through her personal story, she illustrates the meaning of peace that goes beyond the mere absence of war. Her doctoral dissertation explores religious and secular epistemologies and phenomenologies of peace in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Halida explains that peace is context-dependent and that, more often than not, societies remain in what is known as negative peace—no active war, but with ongoing conflict. She also draws attention to problematic approaches by international organizations that tend to ignore local knowledge and needs. An inspiring example from Mostar highlights how young people managed to overcome ethnic divisions through a shared music school, creating space for collaboration and friendship. Halida herself is very active in both local and academic communities, using grassroots approaches to contribute to peacebuilding. She mentions political shows, which have nothing to do with the people as the people of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republic of Serbia live and work together in harmony, especially women. I am more and more aware that the people are what matters. The institutions are the people. Halida explains key concepts such as religious and secular epistemologies of peace, describes her field research methods, and reflects on whether her findings might be applicable to other conflicts around the world. The conversation also touches on gender issues and the position of women in Bosnia and Herzegocina today. For dinner,