We took some time to talk about the state of Java and Java frameworks in 2023. We spoke with Gavin King (Senior Distinguished Engineer - IBM && Red Hat) - creator of the Hibernate ORM framework - about Quarkus. We listened to Roman Neglič (Senior Software Engineer, Object Computing, Inc. (OCI)) explain the polyglot nature of Micronaut and enjoyed the deep dive into Spring Boot with Etien Rožnik from Sportradar. We also covered topics such as serverless, GraalVM, AoT, Spring / Quarkus ecosystems, project loom-green threads, OSS, community and the general future of Java. The discussion was recorded at the Make IT Conference 2023 in Portorož, Slovenia, in front of a live audience. ✨ Patreon ✨ Ogrodje / Borderless is possible because you support us! Let’s make it official at patreon.com/ogrodje ✨ Supporters ✨ 3fs - If you are looking for challenges related to product/software development and design, visit 3fs.cloud Humanfrog - A strategy consulting company with core competencies in digitalisation, internet technologies, and experience design. Visit humanfrog.com to learn more. ✨ Participants ✨ Guests and host: Gavin King, Roman Neglič, Etien Rožnik and Oto Brglez Media production: Jan Dolar, DOLAR Media Artwork: Jernej Gračner P.s.: Join us on Discord at https://discord.com/invite/TtpR2DSxNC Thanks for your kind support! 🚀